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		<title>By: acosta</title>
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		<dc:creator>acosta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 03:51:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeah this is pretty ridiculously interesting. i really am not sure i understand or agree with our reasons for shooting it down, but insofar as it&#039;s done safely ... i guess i won&#039;t complain too much.

yes, we roused the chinese about this last year, and for good reason, as was mentioned in the article. it just doesn&#039;t seem to me like the risk is great enough to put that many more thoughts of little golf-ball sized pieces in space. yes, we can argue that most of those pieces will burn up in a small amount of time, but inevitably a high-energy collision is going to propel pieces further out into the atmosphere (especially if i am to believe this simulation). littering space just doesn&#039;t seem like something we should be doing. and no one  is going to die from hydrazine ... not a chance. the only way someone one be injured is if this thing landed right on top of them, which is just so ridiculously unlikely it&#039;s barely worth considering. 

all that being said ... if people who know this area far better than i do have decided that this is completely safe and will not eject long-term particles into space ... and in reality this is an ability for us to test an unproven technology ... then fine. sign me up. it seems to me as if this is probably what&#039;s going on.

i would love to look at the theory behind these simulations. they are definitely done (i actually do know this) with a direct-simulation monte carlo (DSMC) technique, whereby the boltzmann collision integral is solved in small isolated regions (mesh elements), rather than considering large-area multibody interactions. i&#039;m sure their code is nice. there is, as yet, no major open source DSMC code available, which is pretty unfortunate. it&#039;s a great technique for transition regime flows (which is what this satellite is experiencing right now).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah this is pretty ridiculously interesting. i really am not sure i understand or agree with our reasons for shooting it down, but insofar as it&#8217;s done safely &#8230; i guess i won&#8217;t complain too much.</p>
<p>yes, we roused the chinese about this last year, and for good reason, as was mentioned in the article. it just doesn&#8217;t seem to me like the risk is great enough to put that many more thoughts of little golf-ball sized pieces in space. yes, we can argue that most of those pieces will burn up in a small amount of time, but inevitably a high-energy collision is going to propel pieces further out into the atmosphere (especially if i am to believe this simulation). littering space just doesn&#8217;t seem like something we should be doing. and no one  is going to die from hydrazine &#8230; not a chance. the only way someone one be injured is if this thing landed right on top of them, which is just so ridiculously unlikely it&#8217;s barely worth considering. </p>
<p>all that being said &#8230; if people who know this area far better than i do have decided that this is completely safe and will not eject long-term particles into space &#8230; and in reality this is an ability for us to test an unproven technology &#8230; then fine. sign me up. it seems to me as if this is probably what&#8217;s going on.</p>
<p>i would love to look at the theory behind these simulations. they are definitely done (i actually do know this) with a direct-simulation monte carlo (DSMC) technique, whereby the boltzmann collision integral is solved in small isolated regions (mesh elements), rather than considering large-area multibody interactions. i&#8217;m sure their code is nice. there is, as yet, no major open source DSMC code available, which is pretty unfortunate. it&#8217;s a great technique for transition regime flows (which is what this satellite is experiencing right now).</p>
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		<title>By: alex boone</title>
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		<dc:creator>alex boone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 03:13:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that is incredibly interesting.  i&#039;m sure i could have found out about that on the news, but vdov is where i get my news.  it seems highly unlikely that this is an attempt to save us from some hydrazine gas.  i was unaware of the amateur satellite tracking contingent here in america, it is quite impressive how accurate they are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that is incredibly interesting.  i&#8217;m sure i could have found out about that on the news, but vdov is where i get my news.  it seems highly unlikely that this is an attempt to save us from some hydrazine gas.  i was unaware of the amateur satellite tracking contingent here in america, it is quite impressive how accurate they are.</p>
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		<title>By: acosta</title>
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		<dc:creator>acosta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 01:50:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well before I comment... (i am at a bar before watching the eclipse tonight) ... Maybe adding a title to the post would be in order?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well before I comment&#8230; (i am at a bar before watching the eclipse tonight) &#8230; Maybe adding a title to the post would be in order?</p>
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